Anshu Bahanda: A few months ago, researchers at Stanford created an AI tool that could predict the onset of diabetes years before the traditional tests could catch it, simply by analyzing patterns in wearable data. At MIT, another team trained an algorithm that can detect signs of depression in your voice even before you realize you’re slipping. And in Japan, AI is being used to design personalized diets that lower cholesterol and blood sugar more effectively than standard guidelines. And just recently, AI models outperformed cardiologists in detecting irregular heart rhythms through smartwatch data alone. This isn’t science fiction anymore. It’s the world of AI powered biohacking. And it’s already shaping how we eat, sleep, train, age, and recover from. From algorithms that predict illness before we feel it to wearables that detect stress and recovery.
AI is turning data into daily decisions that could extend not just our lifespan, but our health span. However, it also raises significant questions. How far can we truly push the limits of human performance? And are we empowering ourselves or gradually outsourcing our biology to machines? And beyond the excitement, we must ask, will these tools truly benefit everyone? Or will they ultimately just serve a privileged few? This is Anshu Bahanda, from Wellness curated. And today we’re diving deep into the world of AI and biohacking, not just to talk about gadgets and data, but to explore what this technology really means for the future of fitness, nutrition, and longevity.
Welcome to the Wellness Algorithm, where wellness isn’t static. It’s something we can rewrite and reprogram as our lives evolve. Each stage demands new tools, new awareness, and new ways of caring for ourselves. Today, we’re talking about how AI and biohacking are changing the way we approach health. But before we dive deeper, let’s pause, because when you hear the word biohacking, it could sound futuristic or even intimidating. The truth is, biohacking is simply about making small, intentional changes to upgrade how your body and mind work. It could be as simple as better sleep, breath work, or personalized nutrition, or as advanced as using AI and wearables to guide your health in real time.
At its heart, biohacking isn’t about extremes. It’s about working with your biology so you can feel stronger, live healthier, and extend not just your years, but the quality of those years. And joining me is someone who lives in this space from every angle. Dr. Marcus Ranney, or Doc M as he’s called. He’s a physician, digital health leader, longevity advocate, and a global voice on human performance and health span. Before we jump in with a small request. Please subscribe to this podcast if you. It’s free and please share it with someone who loves exploring the future of health. Thank you.
Welcome to the chat, Dr. I’m going to jump straight into questions. So you began as a doctor treating illness and now you’re focusing on enhancing performance and longevity. What made you change gears?
Dr. Marcus Ranney: You know, actually it was the other way around, before I practiced medicine. So I trained in London at University College, before I practiced medicine, the early part of my career year where I was studying my first degree program, which was in human physiology. I actually served as a volunteer reserve in the, in the Air Force. And during that period of time I was exposed to a field of science called extreme medicine and extreme physiology, which is where you really work with high performing individuals who are pushing the body to their human limits. And you’re understanding how the body sort of copes with that extreme stress, doesn’t break down and is able to adapt and evolve to that. And it was from that position that I then went on to do medicine. And then my first job was ICU. My second job was Geriatric medicine. My third job was, Urology. And that was the paradox, which is I had just sort of experienced and been immersed for many years in this field where the body was limitless, able to stand on the summit of Everest, working with mountaineers who summited, working at NASA, with astronauts on the International Space Station, working with marathon runners and extreme athletes, and then faced with frailty, decline and disease, that model didn’t quite work, didn’t fit in my brain. It was a huge paradox. And that’s when I realized that actually I needed to bring the thread back in and focus again upon high performance in some way shape and form. Many years later, now, doing what I do, sort of connected the dots, but that’s sort of my entry point in and how it is that I do what I do.
AB: Now that’s fascinating. And tell me, was there like an aha moment when you maybe tried a tool or a wearable or an AI based bio hack and thought, this is the future, this is already here, this is where I want to be. Was there like a moment like that?
MR: I don’t think one moment stands out. I think, in 2017, 2018, I’d given a TEDx talk here in India where I was asked to imagine and describe what the future would look like. So, thinking about a world in 2030, a decade or so away, at that point, what might we be experiencing from a health perspective on a day to day basis. And in that talk I presented my thesis, which is that I imagined a world where devices and intelligence was an everyday part of our day to day living at that point in time. It’s hard to believe it now. I mean now we’re in 2025 and ChatGPT and the LLMs are part and parcel of almost every conversation, every work stream. But back in 2017 the Alexa device had just been introduced and Siri was just introduced on the Apple devices. So I spoke about this idea of a digital health intelligence, a health concierge which was constantly absorbing all the data that we were creating on a minute by minute basis.
And then utilizing that information to then make projections and interventions in real time for us to lead our lives in a much more preventative and proactive way of health. And it’s nice to see now in 2025 that’s pretty much the world we are in now where devices from our wrists to our fingers, from our clothing from the food, all of these biomarkers of information the human body and average individual is producing somewhere in the region of 1.7 megabytes of data, every minute. So how do we use that information to our advantage to prescribe? And it’s fascinating to see where we are now, five years from now. Who knows how much more penetrative that information and capabilities become.
AB: So you know, there’s two sets of people I found from a lot of the AI chats we’ve had. There’s people who are really into it and who understand it and there’s a lot of other people who say, oh, this is only for tech people or for elite athletes. So tell me, how do you explain biohacking in a way that, you know, the second group of people can relate to it?
MR: No, I think it’s important for us to maybe take a step back and appreciate the journey of how it is that we’re here today. I think there have been a couple of big technological changes which perhaps people don’t fully appreciate. I think the first thing is even the utilization of something as basic as ChatGPT. Now the reason why we’re having this conversation about AI, I mean AI, it’s a catch all phrase for many things, but let’s just call it this sort of artificial intelligence and the large language models which are at the back of that capability. It’s the interface that OpenAI created, which was an application on a mobile device which the everyday consumer could start to Interact with. It’s suddenly become this massive discovery for all of us because we are asking it to create everything from prose to poems, from analytics of data through to giving us recipes for what we should be eating for dinner, right?
And many, many more use cases. But without that interface, it wouldn’t have become, you know, the fastest growing technology uptake ever in history. I forget what the numbers are, but it was crazy. That first 100 million happened in I think two or three months. It really, really exploded. So that is a very important thing for us to, for us to appreciate because without that simplicity of interface, I remain in the background and something which, as you described in the questions, you know, limited to, you know, software engineers or the techies as a, as an innovator first, that’s the first thing I think the second thing for us to really appreciate is that what we call AI today, and Jeff Bezos actually said this very eloquently last week in the interview he gave at the Tech Summit, which is that AI is really a horizontal layer which cuts across every aspect of life. You know, you take a business, all of the business functionalities, whether it’s account keeping, operations management, customer Service, etc. All of those verticals now have an AI layer which is cutting across them and adding to greater efficiencies in terms of productivity, performance and ultimately output and outcome.
And the same is happening in the healthcare world as well. If you look at the verticals, it could be diagnostics which you could divide to blood, to imaging through digital data, it could be prescriptions, it could be process management or clinical decision making. All of those verticals now have an embedded AI as a horizontal layer which is enhancing the productivity and the performance of that. So I fundamentally challenge the question in that. I think that whilst today it might seem that it’s being limited to the very few, I think it’s important for us to appreciate how One interface like ChatGPT created an explosion and now it’s in the hands of many. And I think the same can very well happen in the health world as well, which is waiting for the right interface to happen. Maybe it’s from a wearable, maybe it’s from a technology firm, maybe it’s a new company that we haven’t even heard of or hasn’t even been founded yet. But the interface will happen and when it happens, that eureka moment will happen and it’ll explode in the same way as ChatGPT, Grok and all the others are doing. And I think the second thing for us to appreciate is that the horizontal application of this tool or this technology to all verticals of health is happening in the background. And it’s only a matter of time where it really changes work streams going forward as well as the same way as it’s doing in other businesses. So, I think it’s a really exciting time because biology and technology are coming together in a way that we’ve never seen before. And all kinds of new things are going to be available to us, from diagnostics to therapies and treatments and management.
AB: That is true. On that note, I’m going to ask you something. Can you tell me an everyday bio hack that people can do without buying any gadgets at all? So sitting at home is that what can they do so they truly get to understand what we’re talking about when we talk about biohacking?
MR: Yeah. So let’s define biohacking. Biohacking is nothing but the optimization of an operating system. And in this case, our operating system is our physiology and our psychology. So what can we do to optimize that system so that the outcome is higher? Now, I like to look at it through the lens of lifestyle, but other people might look at it through the lens of medications or drugs or therapies or physical interventions, etc. But let’s have a lifestyle. Let’s look at. I’m speaking to you right now, as I said from my bedroom. So let’s look at the bedroom environment. And what can we do to optimize the bedroom environment so that we bio-hack our physiology and our psychology? The first thing is your physical bedroom environment must be cold, dark, quiet and technology free. The best temperature for the human body to sleep in, as per the clinical evidence, is between a temperature band of 16 to 18 degrees Celsius, or 70 to 74 degrees Fahrenheit. So having a cold bedroom environment will allow your core body temperature to reduce to a level where your deep sleep component will be as high as possible.
That’s a bio hack, physically having an air condition and reducing the bedroom temperature. The second is dark, having curtains, which are proper blackout curtains, blocking as much light as possible, removing any other source of light in the bedroom. You know the game we play in hotel rooms, which is where we try to find the LEDs and the switches to turn off the lights in funny places. So having a dark bedroom environment is a bio hack because it allows the melatonin secretion to be as high as possible and therefore allowing the body to go into sleep. Quiet, making sure that your bedroom is a quiet environment. It could be having a rug or a carpet on the floor. It could be having heavy set curtains that absorb sound, preventing it from coming in. Or having double glazed windows to prevent sound from coming through. Technology free. You want a bedroom which is as tech free as possible. No screens, no devices, no tech. Take that Wifi router and put it outside. Take that television screen and put it outside. Take that mobile phone and put it outside.
AB: That’s the toughest.
MR: I think it’s easy when you ask the person, why is your phone next to you? 92% of people say that their phone is next to them. Because it’s their alarm clock.
AB: Yes.
MR: And there’s a dollar, alternative to that. They can go on any e-commerce site and buy a simple alarm clock for $5 or less and we can then put that mobile device outside to charge so that you can charge your body in the bedroom environment. So these are examples of simple lifestyle modifications which quote unquote, bio-hack the body. And I haven’t even spoken about any of the drugs, molecules, interventions. That’s another layer and a layer on top of this.
AB: That’s true.
MR: So people think about biohacking. They shouldn’t be in a frame of mind that, okay, this is only reserved for the technology adopters or people who are looking to innovate with fancy devices and expensive therapies. Biohacking begins simply by making structural changes in your environment and your relationships and your home and your workspace that allows the human body to optimize its physiology and psychology.
AB: Fantastic. Now on that note, I’m going to move on to fitness. Tell me. There is a lot of confusion around optimizing fitness trackers, recovery scores, smart workout, VO2 data. So from your experience, how is AI genuinely changing the way we train and we recover?
MR: It’s providing a level of intelligence which allows us to give personalized recommendations to individuals based on their needs right now. And of course this capability has got hugely more advantages for a professional athlete or a sports individual. Right. Because I just finished a call with one of India’s leading pickleball players. She used to represent India for tennis and now she’s the face of pickleball. And one of the things she told me is, doc, you know, I’m going back to back because pickleball has now exploded. I say, doc, I’ve got no opportunity for proper recovery. I’m waking up feeling really tired and fatigued. My reflexes are being diminished and I’m losing the joy as well. So we’re able to look at, wearing a ring. We’re able to look at her sleep scores, we’re able to look at the components of sleep. How much time is she spending in REM sleep, how much time is she spending in deep sleep, how much time is she spending in light sleep.
Then we look at the recovery. You were alluding to a metric around recovery, what we call heart rate variability, which is a method of quantifying the amount of stress on the organism. So these are numbers which we can use to then guide. And one of the things we’ve done is to stack her supplements up now so that she’s taking magnesium, she’s taking reishi, she’s taking L theanine and ashwagandha. We spoke to her about the importance of creatine and protein in her diet so that her muscles are restoring themselves. I spoke to her about the importance of saunas, of red light therapy, of cold water immersion so that the physical body and muscles can recover after a game. And then we also through her blood work, looked at all of the micronutrient deficiencies that she has, vitamins, cofactors, minerals, etc so that we can supplement her accordingly. So this data allows me to go at a level of personalization which I could never have done a few years ago. Right. And of course I can be much more detailed in an athlete because it’s about performance. But the same application can happen in a layperson as well because the information is as readily available through wearable devices and blood based testing.
AB: So explain to me what someone should do if they want to get to optimal nutrition. So how can they really personalize their nutrition just based on what you’ve told me?
MR: So there are basic blood tests that we should each be doing every six to 12 months which will help us understand the metabolic components of the body, the micronutrient components of the body and the state of inflammation. Right. So metabolic health, we’ve been looking at your fasting sugar, your fasting insulin, your HPA1C score. We’d be looking at your lipid levels, we’d be, which includes your triglycerides and your good and bad cholesterols, etc. So there’s a whole panel there that will help guide us to understand how effective your metabolism is in your body. The second is we’d look at your micronutrients. So I’d look at iron, I’d look at vitamin B12, vitamin D3, your albumin, your total body protein, some of the micronutrients like magnesium and copper and zinc and selenium. So there’s a whole list of micronutrients that we can measure. And then of course, inflammation is a big problem today because people are eating the wrong foods. The physical environment is a toxic one. We have a lot of psychological stress from our work, life imbalance, driving cortisol and chronic sustained inflammation.
So these are just some of the blood tests that one can measure to quantify, and based on that information, prescribe food based interventions or micronutrient supplementation based interventions to help heal the body. Another example, Anshu, would be for a person with very poor gut health. And there we can, another test, which is what we call the microbiome test, which is a stool sample and a saliva sample to look at the diversity of microorganisms that are living inside of that person. Are they, have they got the right type of good? How much of the bad are there? What’s the ratio between the two? And based on that, we can put them on gut based protocols, elimination diets, supplementation diets, probiotics, prebiotic foods and capsules to then heal the gut from the inside out. So, there’s a wealth of information available in the body and we can use that to tailor our prescriptions for people.
AB: Fabulous. We’re going to make a list of the blood tests you’ve recommended and the other tests and give it to people, along with the podcast, so it helps them. But, you know, you’ve often talked about health span versus lifespan. So how can biohacking help us stay younger for longer, not just, you know, live like a vegetable lying on a bed?
MR: This is, I think, the most important question that we need to be asking ourselves individually and as a society. McKinsey had done a study, which they published just after the pandemic, where they looked at the global life expectancy across all major and developing world countries. And they found from 1960 to 2019, so in the space of five decades, six decades, we had averaged increased global life expectancy by 19 years, 19 years. Right. So think of that as every three years, we added a year back in. That’s great. A lot of that is down to medical advancements, alleviation of poverty and better surgical techniques and generic medicines. That’s the lifespan part of the equation, which is how many years are we physically living. But as we looked at that data, we also found that ill health and sick care is happening earlier, that people are living an average over half of their lives with disease and therefore the health span coefficient, the number of healthy years, is actually going down. So we talk about this in longevity science as the delta, the gap between health span and lifespan. Lifespan is increasing, but health span is going down and therefore the gap is getting wider and wider. And the average person coming to see me, comes to see me. Not for Doc to help me live longer. It’s actually helped me live healthier for longer.
AB: Healthier, yes.
MR: Elevate my health span. And that’s where the work and energy needs to be invested in. And that’s where actually the discipline is required. Because there’s no pill for health span. There’s no pill for lifespan either, by the way, but there’s definitely no pill for health span. Health span is a journey where we need to invest in every day over the course of our lives to make the right lifestyle modifications. When it comes to choosing what food we consume, when it comes to ensuring that we are active every day, when it comes to making sure that our body is well rested and recovered, where it comes to managing stress, and finally, when it comes to the physical environment and the internal relationships that we have with ourselves and people around us. I call these the five pillars. Sleep, move, eat, breathe and connect. These five pillars, there’s no fancy medicines here, there’s no crazy gadgets, gizmos or interventions. But these five pillars lay the foundation for elevating health span and allowing us to live healthier for longer.
AB: That’s lovely, thank you for that. But also, there’s a lot of devices out there. So how do we separate what’s useful in the long term from what’s just expensive hype? People are giving out very expensive medicines. People are spending a fortune on devices, wearables.
MR: The fact of the matter is you have to do the fundamentals first. There’s no point wearing the fanciest watch ring or having an IV infusion. If you are not sleeping the basic seven hours a night, if your diet is one, or your food is one, which is hyper carbohydrate, hyper calorific, hyper processed, if you’re sitting at your desk for 14 to 16 hours every day, etc. So do the basics first, do them well, and then graduate to the fancy gizmos and gadgets that you were describing. And there are many. And there are great advantages, as I gave you a prime example. A few from an athlete to a layperson. But if that same person was not doing the basic fundamentals of the five pillars first, then everything else is just window dressing and frankly makes meaningless sense. There’s no sense, it’s nonsensical, and it’s a waste of time, money and energy all concerned.
AB: Okay, that’s good advice. Get your five pillars right first. Now there is an explosion of mental health issues. Do you think I can help us with that or is that still human territory?
MR: I haven’t made up my mind on this yet, honestly and I’m not saying that because it’s sort of, I don’t want to fall one way or the other. I think there’s great promise in the potential of using AI. Let’s take a country like I’m currently living in India. India has one of the lowest numbers of trained psychiatric physicians and experts versus the population size. There is no way we cannot build enough medical schools fast enough to get people trained to provide for the expertise required for the burden of mental health disease that we have in the country. So clearly some of these technologies will be in a position to provide for a capability set that can help manage the day to day and leave the more nuanced for the human experts. So there’s clearly a use case that can be derived from that. Flip it on the other side. Sam Altman, founder of OpenAI. I spoke last month or the month before where he mentioned that one of the biggest use cases he’s seeing in ChatGPT is people using it as a sort of a psychologist or a coach for managing their, their sort of day to day mental health questions, etc.
And of course guardrails need to be created around this because even OpenAI does not really understand how its LLMs work. It exists, but we don’t know how the language models actually think for themselves or come up with the recommendations. And we’ve all read or seen you know, those news clippings where you know, there have been instances where ChatGPT or the LLMs have lied or falsified information or manipulated the individual at the other end. So there are going to have to be some sort of safeguards around this. So I think there’s great promise but it needs to be managed very carefully because otherwise there’ll be an over reliance and with it will come its own set of problems. We’re already seeing that with social media today, right? The young generation, the Gen Z’s and the Gen Alphas have a disproportionately larger amount of problems with body image, self talk, mental health, all of those things. And a lot of that is because of social media. We can’t create another version of that sort of social media on steroids, which could be what the AI tools could be. So I think there’s promise but we need to manage it really well.
AB: You know, for the people listening in if they wanted to start improving their fitness, nutrition and longevity using tech, what would you recommend on the device side, on the AI based habits side?
MR: Look, I think the amount or the availability of these platforms are so many nowadays, so people are almost spoiled for choice, which is a good thing. I think people often ask me doc, you know, what’s the best device that I should use? And there’s no one clear answer. If you’re a runner, you may preferentially prefer a running band, to wear on your wrist. If you are looking at it from a recovery perspective, you may prefer a ring that you wear on your finger which you can take off at night. That same ring is not very comfortable if you’re working out in the gym because it’ll be very uncomfortable when you’re trying to pick up a barbell, or a weight etc. So I think there are different form factors based on the application that best suits what you want to do. My father, who’s a type 2 diabetic but on insulin, instead of pricking his finger four to six times a day, he now uses the glucose patch on his arm. And using the app on the phone, I’m able to look and track his day to day blood sugars, how he responds to certain foods when he, when he does get to exercise, how it is beneficial for him, etc.
AB: Which a lot of people are doing even if they’re not diabetic. They’re using glucose even if they’re not diabetic.
MR: Exactly. I think there’s a use case for it which is even if you’re a non diabetic, it’ll give you an insight into how your body uniquely responds to different food groups. Based on your genesis, based on your lifestyle, based on your metabolic rate, based on your microbiome. We all respond very differently to different food groups. And just wearing the patch for 10 to 12 days will allow you to understand these foods are better for me for my sugar control, these foods are worse for me for my sugar control and then you can make smarter choices. So I think there’s some benefit to that. And certainly for athletes as well. So yeah, I mean, point being that there are different form factors based on what it is that you’re trying to get at. There are smart scales. I have one in my house where, you know, you stand on it and you’re able to look at not just your body weight, which is a very crude measure, but actually looking at the composition of your body weight. How much of that is muscle, how much of that is water, how much of that is sort of non lean. That’s very helpful. So with lots of these devices, there’ll be many more that come out over the next few years as we get deeper and deeper into understanding the human body and then use that information to our advantage.
AB: And I also believe that ultimately it’s not going to be a physical device, it’s just going to be part of our lives. Ultimately we won’t be wearing that Oura ring. It’ll just be somewhere, something will be tracking our sleep. I don’t want to think about what, but
MR: I look at the maturity curve of all of these applications and you can really look at it, in terms of what was the first set of celebration or what were they trying to impress users with? It was fancy looking graphs. Now we’re reaching a stage where a lot of the platforms are pushing those graphs into the background because they’ve realized that people either become very anxious about them or they can’t interpret them for themselves. And the next level of value addition is the interpretation of those graphs. So based on your sleep last night, this is what you should do today. Right? That’s where we are at right now. I think in three years hence we’ve probably taken it one level further, which is it’s not even the interpretations based on looking at your graphs, it’s the integration into your day to day lives, which is it’ll automatically tell your meal, delivery app what foods you can eat and what foods you can’t eat. Right.
So that you don’t even need to think about, oh, this is what I should order for lunch. It’s automatically giving me my lunch order which is being delivered to me. So I think it’s the natural evolution of technology, consumer interface and then day to day lifestyle. We’re just on that trend in our journey and all of the fancy gizmos, gadgets and data will slowly fall to the background and it’ll just become second nature from a choice perspective.
AB: Okay, so my last question to you is about solving big problems of the world. If you could test one AI powered health intervention on a large scale. Something that would change how the world eats, moves or ages. What would you choose and why?
MR: I think the biggest culprit to the lifestyle diseases which we have prevalent not just in the developed world, but in the developing world as well, is sugar and high processed foods. I think if we are able to develop a solution which makes healthy food choice the default option for people in an engaging manner, and therefore reducing the load of sugar, carbohydrate and high, processed foods, we will have a huge impact on the health span, and therefore the lifespan of our species in the years to come. I don’t know what that solution is, but I think if smarter people who are watching this show can think about AI application to food choices and making it engaging enough that people want to eat those foods at the right time in their convenience at a cost effective solution that will potentially make a huge impact on health globally.
AB: Doc M, that’s probably one of the best answers I’ve had. I’ve done about 200 podcasts. That’s probably one of the best answers I’ve had so far. And we’ve got to try and figure out how to make this happen, I think. But, that was fantastic.
MR: Smart people in the audience.
AB: But before we go, we’re going to play a quick game. It’s called Hack or Hype.
MR: Okay,
AB: I’ll name a trend and you tell me in one line whether it’s a genuine hack or just hype.
MR: And hack is a good thing in this instance, right?
AB: Hack is good. Hype is no, no. AI driven personalized diets
MR: hack.
AB: Why one sentence?
MR: Because of the overwhelm of choice. Social media today is simultaneously telling you that food X is good and food X is bad. The truth is it’s somewhere in between. It’s based on your biology, it’s based on your context, and it’s based on the objective you’re trying to achieve. So if AI can understand those three things and then tell you exactly Anshu for you, coffee is good or coffee is bad, that’s a good piece of information to get.
AB: Okay, Wearables that predict stress and recovery.
MR: I think that’s a hack and it’s a hack because stress levels are, at an all time high and they’re at an all time high because of the environment, the food and the choices we’re making simultaneously. Sleep is at an all time low and these two things together are contributing to so much ill health and disease. So the more we can do to enhance recovery, improve sleep and reduce stress, the better people will be.
AB: Fabulous. Genetic testing for performance and wellness.
MR: I think it’s a hype currently so far. I think it’s still too much of a probabilistic science. We don’t understand the nuance of it enough for a clinician to be able to make meaningful interpretation of that data to improve your, improve your outcome. Now this is very different and I want to make sure people are clear. There are some genes which have a one to one mapping, you know, BRCA when it comes to breast cancer, the Huntington gene when it comes to Huntington’s disease. In those instances, knowing whether you are positive, carrier or not will have an outcome to your health. But when it comes to day to day things which we call polymodal, like diabetes or hypertension or stroke, etc. That’s too nuanced. We don’t have enough understanding right now to be able to say, oh, do this saliva test to your genes. And now basically you’re at this risk and this is what you can do. I think there’s a little bit too much hype out there so far.
AB: Okay, thank you. And the last one, AI powered health coaches in longevity clinics.
MR: Oh, I need to be careful because ultimately we are building something very similar as well. I would have to say with full disclosure, because we are building, as well, that I think it’s a hack, I think it’s a good thing. And I think it’s a good thing for the same answer I gave you for the first one, which is that overwhelm, confusion, too much data existing in a world of social media of who can shout the loudest rather than who’s the smartest in the room is confusing people. And if we can build technologies to provide for personalized interventions contextually at the right time, based on objective, we can truly help people without the need of having hundreds and thousands and millions of human experts being trained, which is the model of the past, but not necessarily the outcome of the future.
AB: Thank you so much. Thank you for that eye opening conversation, Doc For reminding us that AI and biohacking aren’t just about chasing perfection. They’re about using science and technology wisely to live with more clarity, resilience and intention. Great conversation.
MR: Thank you. Thank you, Anshu.
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